1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,720 The committee concluded that in the 19 years since the first UFO was sighted, there has 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:21,720 been no evidence that unidentified flying objects are a threat to our national security. 3 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Oh, it's a butcher. I know. Lay down. Lay down. I know. I gotta submit to the kisses 4 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:45,640 or it's just gonna happen. Come here. Lay down. Lay down. I'm kind of shocked that a buddy of mine 5 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:52,560 is gonna talk with me, but you know it's an individual that has direct insight into what I 6 00:00:52,560 --> 00:01:03,160 call the chandelier UAP. It was classified UFO UAP by our intelligence agencies. 7 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Hello? Hey, man, how's it going? Good, man, how are you? I'm good. So you are aware that I have to 8 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,240 receive something multiple times if it appears to be a military-based assessment that something is a 9 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:38,200 UFO, right? Correct. So I've got a still image or something that I have learned to be called the 10 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:44,440 chandelier UAP. Does that ring a bell to you? It does. 11 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:59,680 This still image, it was filmed, I can tell by the coordinates, it was filmed over the Persian Gulf. 12 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,160 It's called the chandelier because if you lay down at your dining room table and look up at your 13 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:11,160 chandelier, it looks just like that. It's very thin and the object does not circulate on its own. 14 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:19,480 It is going in very small circles. So what was the most impressive thing to you about this video, 15 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:26,120 which the world has not seen yet? The fact that it just, it makes no sense. It is just the most bizarre 16 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:34,920 structure with no purpose and with speed that has everyone across the intelligence community just 17 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:40,760 asking questions and trying to figure out what this thing is. There is no wings. There is seemingly 18 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:47,640 no place for anyone to sit on. It's just a bizarre shape that has a strange propulsion 19 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:54,600 and is appeared immediately. So you have obviously had had great access to things that the public 20 00:02:54,600 --> 00:03:01,400 hasn't seen yet and it is your determination that this UFO thing, there's something major to it 21 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,840 and the public should know? Absolutely. Absolutely, 100%. 22 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:15,640 I can tell you that across the US intelligence community, there are people like me and David 23 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:20,280 who have seen things and are asking questions and trying to figure out what we're seeing because 24 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,880 there are no answers and when the higher ups see these, they just find an excuse and that's what's 25 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:33,720 frustrating. Are you convinced that UAP are from some technologically advanced group that we 26 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:40,760 don't directly know of? That's a loaded question. There are so many possibilities. 27 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:50,360 It's not us now. It's not adversaries. Is it us from some other place or convention or 28 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,440 there are so many possibilities. They're probably sound crazy but I think about it a lot 29 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,560 and there are a lot of people in the intelligence community that don't make the large decisions 30 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,960 but aren't interested in this, where they come from, whether it's in the sea, 31 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,520 someplace else, it's just a mystery. And one other thing I'd like to say to you, Jeremy, is 32 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:19,320 there are many, many videos that can't be released of surveillance of other countries that we are 33 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:27,560 doing with UAP all the time, especially around aircraft and around ships. Like Russian ships 34 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,880 and two bad boys flying by. Not that I've seen it with my own eyes but just saying. Yes, I've seen 35 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:39,160 quite a bit of that and that will never be released, I'm sure. But as far as our collection in the 36 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,280 skies, I have no problem with that. It's not. Wow, man. Imagine what we're capturing with our 37 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:50,840 sensors now. Well, thanks, man. I appreciate for all this time just kind of giving me your 38 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:55,160 insights. There's a lot of people that I talk with that kind of cross-reference. 39 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,080 You know, if something is legitimate or real, just even knowing that what I received is an 40 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,440 actual mystery to our intelligence agencies, that's a good heads up. So I appreciate that. 41 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,240 It is a mystery. It is a mystery. It involves the IC. Yes, it is a mystery. 42 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,680 I know, dude. There's some good stuff out there. Here's the deal. I'm just glad that there's people 43 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,160 in the IC interested in this and hopefully if something is of that importance, people keep 44 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,760 coming forward and giving that information to journalists or whatever because I think it's 45 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,880 key. I don't know if the normal process is going to move this forward. I think that, 46 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:35,400 unfortunately, we have to rely on whistleblowers and maybe even leaks to some degree, but whistleblowers 47 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,560 in particular, I think, is going to move this ball forward. So anyway, man, thanks for your 48 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,120 insights. As always, good to talk with you. And yeah, man, you just take care of them. 49 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Thank you and please keep doing your work. All right. Thanks, brother. Bye. 50 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:56,280 We are on the cusp of a question that has kind of burdened human consciousness since the beginning. 51 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Are we alone? 52 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,640 We are now on the cusp of answering that question. This cover up and it is a cover up. 53 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,720 It has harmed people having to keep this secret. You have been lied to. The only way that we're 54 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,760 going to be able to break through this is to protect those that are coming forward. People have 55 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,880 gone and fought to get this information out and I don't know where we're going to land. 56 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,640 It's now our job to pry these doors open. 57 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,760 No fucking way. 58 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,920 What are we looking at? 59 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:49,240 The truth might not be roses and birthday cake. It might not be something very palatable. It might 60 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:56,360 be nefarious. Look, that is a possibility. The reality is every inch, every millimeter of truth 61 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,640 on this subject has been fought for at the personal peril of many people that speak to journalists 62 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,080 like myself and George Knapp. 63 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:21,880 My name is George Knapp. I am an investigative reporter with KLAS TV. I've been chasing the UFO 64 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:27,800 mystery since 1987, a long time. Despite some sniping from other media and the scoffing of 65 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,840 government officials, people want to know about UFOs. They could be extraterrestrial, 66 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,920 interdimensional, time travelers, all the above. They could be so many more exotic possibilities 67 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:45,560 that we haven't even considered. Here's another one right here. You see him? Flying right over our 68 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,240 heads. We have to be open to all the possibilities because the fact is nobody knows for sure. As 69 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,760 I've said, I've been at this for 35, 36 years. I've met people who have been at the highest 70 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,800 echelons of government and the highest echelons at Congress. They've tried to get the answers to 71 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,480 this. No one that I know for sure knows the answers to this stuff. We have to be open to all those 72 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,040 possibilities because there's an ontological shock coming. A lot of people who have not paid 73 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:17,480 attention to this topic who think it's all nonsense. It's tabloid stories are in for a really big 74 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,160 surprise because it's real. It's true. It's here and we need to figure it out. From a newsman's 75 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,040 perspective, I can say this. It would be the biggest story in history. The biggest story, period. 76 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:41,960 This information, it can be difficult because it completely shatters this idea, this dome of 77 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:47,960 possibility that we believed we live in. I don't know where this goes, but I do know it's necessary. 78 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:54,120 It's a lot to get your head around and I'm not sure how humanity in general would react to it. 79 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,600 We begin this morning with more unidentified objects in the skies over the United States. 80 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Yeah, the Pentagon has confirmed that three objects have been shot down in American airspace 81 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:10,280 since Friday. In February, our government shot down three UFOs, unknown objects in the sky. 82 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,600 One of those was a Chinese balloon. We don't know what the other two are because they haven't told 83 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,720 us what they were, but you know, the public paid attention for about three days and then they went 84 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:27,960 back to, hey, when's that Barbie movie coming out? Disclosure is a double-edged sort. Real 85 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:33,640 disclosure means truth. That's what we must always remember. And the truth is not always fun. 86 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:40,520 The truth is not always psychologically reassuring. The reality is that the truth can be disturbing. 87 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Now, the question is, do you want to know it or not? There's a good analogy here. 88 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,760 You're asleep. You're dreaming. And you dream you're on the beach. You're drinking margaritas. You're 89 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,040 having a great time. It's awesome. In reality, your house is burning. What do you want to do? 90 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,080 You want to keep with the dream and keep drinking the margaritas in your dream? 91 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Or do you need to wake up and deal with the fire? 92 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,480 When I'm told I can't know something, oh, you don't want to know the truth, you can't handle the 93 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,320 truth. Fuck that. Yes, I can. What does it look like if we figure this all out? 94 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,560 We're pretty close to reaching the most realistic goal that I think is achievable, 95 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:23,880 and that is for a government to acknowledge there's a non-human intelligence among us. 96 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,920 I don't think that there is ever going to come a day when they're saying, yeah, 97 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,280 aliens are real. They've been abducting us. There's nothing we can do about it. 98 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,760 They control our nuclear weapons. Sorry, good night. That's not going to happen. 99 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:41,800 I think we are pretty close to forcing the hand of those keepers of the sequence. 100 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:50,840 A genuine disclosure of the UAP UFO subject would be probably just about the most earth-shattering 101 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:57,640 thing imaginable. It would have implications for our entire society. It really will show 102 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,440 potentially at the deepest levels a society that has lived a foundational 103 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,920 lie for an entire human lifetime. I don't know what gets bigger than that. 104 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,160 There are a number of different theories about what this phenomenon might be, 105 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,880 but then also the prosaic explanation that it may simply be our own technology, 106 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,240 technology that the U.S. government has that we just don't know about yet. 107 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:36,280 The aerospace defense companies who are often the ones who are working on these black budget 108 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,920 programs behind the scenes, these are people who understand how to play high-level chess. 109 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,600 And so one of the possibilities is that this is some of our classified tech that's much more 110 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,440 advanced than anyone would have ever expected and they want to get it out of the garage. 111 00:11:54,520 --> 00:12:01,160 For a long time, I wanted to believe that this was our technology, this was our black tech, 112 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,280 and that we beat anti-gravity and go America. 113 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:13,240 I know that our government, our intelligence agencies, have used UFOs and UFO mythology to cover 114 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,560 top-secret programs and top-secret platforms and technologies. They've done that. 115 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:25,000 They've taken advantage of UFO stories and lore to hide advanced platforms, planes, 116 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,360 that can do amazing things. And so it could be they're going to fake some sort of fake alien 117 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,000 invasion to freak us all out and get us to say, sure, spend whatever you have to do to keep us safe. 118 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,960 This was actually done many years ago in the 1990s. The official historian of the CIA, 119 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:46,120 whose name was Gerald Payne, he said, we were flying the U-2 aircraft and the SR-71 and a 120 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,040 lot of people thought those were UFOs and we just let people believe that because, well, 121 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,040 we didn't want them to know what our actual technological capabilities were. Well, the 122 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:59,720 fact is the United States does develop a great amount of exotic, very advanced technology, 123 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:08,600 black budget tech, we can say. I have personally felt the blunt force trauma of that secrecy, 124 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:16,440 of our governments will and desire to hold this fundamental fact back from its population, 125 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:23,800 from us. And that congressional hearing, it was a monumental moment in human history to get to 126 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:33,960 ground truth on the UFO phenomenon. A multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, 127 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,920 I made the decision to report this information and in effect becoming a whistleblower. 128 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Have you met with people about advanced technologies that the U.S. government has? 129 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,200 Both space and aerospace compartmental programs, yeah. 130 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Do you have knowledge or do you have reason to believe that there are programs 131 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 in the advanced tech space that are unsanctioned? 132 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Yes, I do. It was incredibly vindicating to hear about somebody at such a high level 133 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,640 talking about these cover-ups of crash retrievals that our government or defense contractors have 134 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,240 been hiding and studying recovered technology that's not from our civilization. 135 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:17,800 UFOs are real. We have craft. We have obtained some of them. We are exploiting them. We try to 136 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,560 figure out how it works. Can we reverse engineering? So naturally, we go to our contractors, some of 137 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:30,120 these big aerospace companies like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Boeing, and we say, hey, you know, 138 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,040 look, here's a product we need in secrecy because of national security. We need you to exploit this 139 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:41,960 and figure out for us. Over time, though, the compartmentalization has made it so there's no 140 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,640 oversight of these exploitation programs that are occurring today. 141 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,440 You can't fool your Lockheed and ask them if they've got a flying saucer in Burbank, 142 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:58,040 something like that. So they rely on advanced companies like these aerospace companies to 143 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,680 figure out how they work. Can we duplicate that technology? That's what we're trying to do. 144 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,080 It's what the Russians are trying to do, the Chinese, and probably a couple of other countries as well. 145 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,120 There's money involved in this. There's money involved in UFO tech. I mean, you think about it. 146 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:22,040 If there actually is real alien tech, what's the monetary value of that? It's got to be 147 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,120 very high. And if you've got defense contractors, some of them have in on this and they're able 148 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,280 to exploit this. Well, that's a moneymaker. It's like a goose that lays golden eggs. 149 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,520 You have a Pentagon that has billions of dollars that they hide. We don't ask for any accounting of. 150 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,560 They never pass an audit in the history of audits. I've often said the only way we're really going 151 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,280 to get to the bottom of this is somebody's going to walk out of one of these labs with this information 152 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:02,280 and puts it out on the Internet before they commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head five times. 153 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:11,720 My attitude is never underestimate the establishment's ability to keep this 154 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,080 contained for as long as they want. It is my belief that if the individuals and the groups in charge 155 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,480 of secrecy on this matter and there are such people, if they could hold this out for five more years, 156 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,080 they'll do it. If they could hold it out for 50 more years, they'll do that too. 157 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,360 This is a delay game for as long as possible. 158 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:39,640 There is no way you can divorce national security implications from that idea of technology. So 159 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,360 that's a big reason for that secrecy. And I think it's going to continue. And even though people 160 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,800 like Jeremy and I are pounding away at it and trying to get to the bottom of it, it's always going to be that way. 161 00:16:53,640 --> 00:17:00,120 Do you believe that extraterrestrial intelligence has visited planet Earth? 162 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,840 I think you can go a step further. It hasn't just visited. It's been here a long time. And people 163 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:11,000 talk about the wow signal, looking for extraterrestrial intelligence. The wow signal is that people see 164 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,080 it on an almost regular basis. That's the communication that's already here. 165 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:20,360 If you had to assign a probability to that statement, that you believe extraterrestrial 166 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:24,040 intelligence has visited this planet, what probability would you assign? 167 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,800 100%. 168 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:45,240 So, you know, why did I say that? To make an advance in an area, sometimes you have to stake out 169 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:53,000 slightly more extreme position than you normally would. If I'd said 60% or 95% or even 99%, 170 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,640 it wouldn't have gone anywhere. I think as long as the public doesn't give up 171 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:07,320 and still continues to press, maybe one day somebody in the government will make a mistake 172 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:14,360 and the information will get out. We'll see. When I apply for a grant, I will put down my 173 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:20,360 preliminary data. It's just enough data that I feel is so conclusive that I'm willing to stake 174 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,920 two or three years of my life on it. And I say, this is something that I really believe in. 175 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:32,520 And I'm going to use this data as my flag in the sand. And I rarely put forward a hypothesis 176 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,840 unless I know it's going to be right. 177 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,320 Another group that comes here might think, that's a really great place. These humans are a real 178 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,680 problem. They're detonating all these nukes. They've got all these weapons. 179 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,840 They're laying waste, really, to the global ecosystem. Let's be real. And they might be thinking, 180 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,040 we can manage that a lot better than they are. How do we do it? We're not really biologically 181 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,800 suited for it. Can we create our own avatars and live there? 182 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:28,280 I've come across a number of direct witnesses I've spoken to in great detail 183 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:35,240 who have convinced me that there are, brace yourself, human looking beings, but they're not 184 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,080 quite like us. They're here. 185 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:48,360 It is something that's been hinted at, that they're right under our noses, that there is a sense 186 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:53,560 that these non-human intelligence have somehow adapted and become part of our society. 187 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:01,400 I don't think there are any simple answers when it comes to this. I think some are of this earth 188 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,760 and have actually been residing on this earth for a long time. I believe that some may walk 189 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:13,400 amongst us. There's no other things that might be. Think about the pandas. Think about a zoo in 190 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:19,080 China. How do you interact with them without scaring them? You dress up in a panda suit. 191 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,880 And the pandas, being pandas, they don't realize that it's a human. They think it's just another panda. 192 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,400 I've heard this from multiple different sources. Robert Bigelow, Bigelow Aerospace, has talked about 193 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,160 them walking among us. A couple of the primary remote viewers from the US Army and CIA remote 194 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,720 viewing program say that they do look like humans and they walk among us when they want to. 195 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,720 There's the common concept of the little gray alien with the big eyes. The fact is, we don't 196 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,440 really know what they look like. I don't think it's threatening. I don't think they're manipulating us 197 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,920 in some harmful way, but potentially monitoring our activities, potentially monitoring the earth 198 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:15,800 and the ecology. I think that what we might be seeing is humanity waking up to the fact that 199 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:21,000 there is a non-human intelligence on this planet. Most people seem to think, because it's the only 200 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,360 thing we've ever seen on television or a movie about UFOs, that this is definitely aliens coming 201 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:31,000 from another planet. But I don't think that a lot of the public understands actually how wide 202 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:40,600 the scope of possibilities actually is. What we think of UAP or UFOs, we tend to think of the sky. 203 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,680 But in fact, there are sightings in all parts of the world, including water-based sightings, 204 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,880 USOs, that's unidentified submersible objects. 205 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:04,280 We've had to modify the term UFO, because in fact they have what's known as trans-medium properties. 206 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:10,280 They can seamlessly move from air into water and back again. They can clearly fly in space. The 207 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Tic-Tac UFO came down from space to send it 80,000 feet in a matter of seconds. 208 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:22,920 You'll recall when that case came to public attention from the New York Times story, 209 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,840 they had been seeing things going in and out of the water and flying out from 210 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,960 space down to above the ocean for weeks at a time. 211 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,560 I mean, there are countless cases of things that are seen flying into and out of the ocean. 212 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,600 There are the navies of pretty much every major superpower in the world have these cases. Pretty 213 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,720 dramatic incidents of things that they haven't countered under the water. 214 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Mr. Favre, do you believe that you witnessed an additional object under the water in relation 215 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,720 to your encounter? There was something there to cause the white water, and when we turned around 216 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,360 it was gone, so there was something there that obviously moved. I spoke to Bob McGuire, who's 217 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:16,360 written about UAP and UFOs, and he reported that he'd been on a navy submarine and something flew by 218 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:22,040 and what he said was the speed of sound, 700 miles an hour underwater, which seems to be a physical 219 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,720 impossibility given the resistance of water. He said other people saw it too. I mean, it's extraordinary. 220 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,840 We've only actually explored about 5% of the ocean floor. 221 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,800 And the oceans make up over 70% of our planet. We're more of a water planet than we are anything 222 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,400 else. So it's not completely out of the question that something could have evolved to the point of 223 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,840 intelligence under the water without us knowing about it. 224 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:16,360 The people at the highest level that I have ever had candid conversations, they always refer me to 225 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:27,160 the movie The Abyss. That there is a presence under the water and UAP reside there, but it makes 226 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,280 sense with how we see their craft being able to operate. A couple years back, I released a well 227 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:39,320 known video, the USS Omaha, where you see in the thermal footage like an egg-shaped UFO that appears 228 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:48,440 to descend into the water. What was flashed? This is corroborated by actual reports of people that 229 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:56,440 were there, helicopter pilots that saw these UFOs going into the water. What I have now seen is that 230 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,320 they are of prime importance to the United States Navy, which encounters them much more than we 231 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,400 realize. I've gone through a number of these reports. Some of these things seem to have the 232 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:17,800 ability to disable aircraft carriers, battle cruisers, the most powerful, potent things that 233 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,880 if you're running the United States Navy, there's nothing more important than your aircraft carrier. 234 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:28,680 And yet we have accounts that I consider credible by ex-Navy people saying, oh yes, for 30 minutes we 235 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:34,200 were unable to engage weapons. That is your single most important piece of military equipment in your 236 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,760 inventory and that thing gets disabled from an object that came rising out of the water, a glowing 237 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:47,880 orange spherical whatever that's hovering over your ship. They observed a very large 100-yard 238 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:56,360 sided red square approach the base from the ocean and hover at low altitude over one of the launch 239 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:02,360 facilities. Put it this way, if you were an alien civilization and you had a base on earth, what 240 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:07,800 would you like it to be that we pesky humans don't interfere with you? It's a great place to hide if 241 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:15,240 you needed to. Let's say that you evolved in a solar system where there were occasionally events in 242 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,280 the solar system that you know asteroids that hit your planet and caused mass destruction. Where's a 243 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:28,360 good place to go that it didn't matter where an asteroid hit? Deep underground. I mean go 10 or 12 244 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:37,560 miles underground and you know take a pretty big rock to change things. I think in the future that 245 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:45,080 the research of UFO folks will be in the oceans because if you talk to folks in upper levels 246 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,040 of government they're pretty much convinced that there are bases that there are enclaves of 247 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,240 non-human intelligence under the ocean waves and that that is where we're going to find some answers. 248 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,400 We interrupt our program of dance music to bring you a special bulletin, huge flaming object, 249 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,040 believed to be a meteorite, fell on a farm. Ladies and gentlemen I have a grave announcement to make. 250 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Those strange beings who landed in the Jersey farmland tonight are the vanguard of an invading 251 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:20,760 army from the planet Mars. Really since the 1930s with force and wells broadcasts there's been a lot 252 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:27,240 of concern that people might freak out about what's happening that they might overreact to 253 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:36,040 information about another presence here on earth. A lot of people who have followed my work are 254 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,640 somewhat relieved because I advocate for the idea that they're us, that they're coming back from the 255 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:47,240 future to visit and study their own evolutionary past. Some people have suggested that this is maybe 256 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:53,960 even our descendants or like future humans in the future coming back either to study their ancestors 257 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,080 to learn more about us or maybe even to help us with some problems that we're having. Across the 258 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,320 board the recurring pattern is these upright walking human-like individuals that are involved in 259 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,840 these abductions and we need to think about that critically. The fact that they look and act so much 260 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,400 like us that they can breathe our air, they can communicate in our languages and most importantly 261 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:21,240 they have evolutionary characteristics that are exactly what we'd expect to see in our future 262 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,080 if the same dominant trends continue. So what is the likelihood that we would get those same physical 263 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:33,080 traits, these same human traits, in a separate evolutionary trajectory on a different planet? 264 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:39,560 I think the simplest explanation is that they're us in our evolutionary future coming back in time 265 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,880 to visit and study their own past. Now you talk to a physicist, is time travel possible? You know, 266 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,440 I'm past the point in my life where I'm willing to say something is absolutely impossible. I mean 267 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,960 I have been shocked over and over again by certain things that I once thought were never possible in 268 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,640 this world and have turned out to be entirely possible and sometimes absolutely real. 269 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:11,400 You look at what's happening to the planet now, we're screwing it up pretty badly and you know, 270 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000 there are a lot of climate scientists who think we've already passed the point of no return. 271 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,480 Throughout the history of the UFO phenomenon, people have reported having dialogue with these 272 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,560 aliens wherever they're from and the message is always the same. It's like an alien editorial, 273 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,120 take care of your planet, quit messing around with nuclear weapons. It suggests that they are 274 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,440 interested in the planet more than they're interested in us because they live here. 275 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,240 They're extraterrestrial, we might expect them to kill us and slave us, take our resources, 276 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,880 but the fact that we don't see that, there's some indication that they're not here to harm us, 277 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,120 they're probably here to study us, but I don't think we need to be fearful of this presence, 278 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,520 especially if they are our evolutionary descendants, they're us in the future. 279 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Everybody has heard extraterrestrial, they maybe have heard extratemporal, which means that we're 280 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:24,360 experiencing beings or craft that are somehow penetrating our timeline but are from a different 281 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:31,400 timeline. So now if we're talking about interdimensional, our observation, what we are physically seeing, 282 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,720 we might not be seeing the full representation of what that is. 283 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,800 We have hypothesized in a lot of our different scientific models that other dimensions could 284 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,920 exist and if it was possible to cross between them, that could explain some of the weirdness that 285 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:54,040 we're seeing with the UFO phenomenon. I try not to speak over my own head, as has been explained to 286 00:30:54,040 --> 00:31:00,520 me, there are other dimensions of reality, that there could be other intelligences living on 287 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,680 earth that we do not see unless they come into our world. We can't get from here to there, 288 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,120 but there is indication that they can enter our world in physical or non-physical forms. 289 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,240 Again and again and again you get the statements coming from people who have studied it also, 290 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:26,040 some of them you could say are insider types. David Grush himself made a reference to this in his 291 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,200 speech to Congress, alluding to this as a possibility. Do you have mentioned that there's 292 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:37,080 interdimensional potential? Could you expound on that? In terms of multi-dimensionality, the framework 293 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,960 that I'm familiar with, for example, is something called the holographic principle, 294 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,240 both it derives itself from general relativity and quantum mechanics and that is, if you want to 295 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:56,200 imagine 3D objects such as yourself casting a shadow onto a 2D surface, that's the holographic 296 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,960 principle. So you can be projected, quasi-projected from higher dimensional space. 297 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:13,800 When you take the deep dive into this phenomena, you start asking questions about the nature of 298 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,640 reality, where we are in the pecking order and the cosmic order of things. These are really big 299 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,720 questions that really disturb people. When you really boil it down, it's profound stuff that 300 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,960 affects us on the most fundamental levels of who we are as people. Part of it depends on what the 301 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,920 actual truth is, what's actually happening. Is this a good, wonderful thing? 302 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Or is this scary and dark and dangerous? A lot hinges on that. Well, there are some possibilities 303 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:54,280 that are pretty dark. How do humans react that we are, in fact, not the rulers of our planet, 304 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,400 that we are way down on the food chain? If we are an agricultural product, if they harvest 305 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,000 something from us, if they've modified our genetics, if they are our creators, how do people react to 306 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,360 that? It is a strong possibility that we are some sort of commodity. You might be unknowing slaves 307 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:20,440 in a way to serve somebody else's will. If it comes out, what it is, it could be a really dark moment for humanity. 308 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:37,320 Look, there's a couple of reasons why this incredible subject is kept under wraps the way it has been for really 80 years. There's a human element here. 309 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,320 I was given a story which I firmly believe by a man who is extremely close to the White House for many years and very high up in the 310 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,880 intelligence community, who told me of when Jimmy Carter was briefed on this matter. 311 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:57,960 Let us create together a new national spirit of unity and trust. This gentleman knows, I would say, 312 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,160 very reliably that at the end of that briefing, President Carter was seen nearly sobbing with his 313 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,120 elbows on his desk and his head in his hands. Something upset him very deeply, which frankly 314 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:15,640 makes sense to me. Because if this is what it appears to be, you're dealing with the presence of at least one very advanced 315 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,320 species of some sort, wherever they come from, that's here. 316 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,360 I think we're dealing with something far more complicated and something way more advanced, 317 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,080 frankly, than us and probably almost not understandable by us. I mean, just look at 318 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:43,320 chat GPT and AI. Scientists today are already saying we don't understand it. We don't understand how it's coming 319 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,680 to the conclusions that are doing and how it's doing it. And we made it. 320 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,920 A warning from Elon Musk and other tech industry experts about the power of artificial intelligence, 321 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,600 saying AI poses a dramatic risk to society. In the space of two years, it's gone from 322 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,760 Siri to, oh my god, this is going to take my job. Imagine what is going to be another 323 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:11,560 thousand years or a million years. So now imagine another culture that is probably at the very least 324 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,680 statistically more likely to be way more advanced than we are. 325 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,320 I will tell you something though, something that might be, might be a little bit scary 326 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,320 to contemplate. Think about a gorilla at a zoo, as my friend Luiz Lando once said. 327 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,840 That gorilla's been playing in the zoo for, you know, decades now, hasn't hurt anyone, 328 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,080 but it's big. If it got out, it could harm you. 329 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Now imagine that gorilla found the keys to its cage. It would spark panic. Think about that 330 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,240 gorilla as humanity. As a species, look, we're quite scary. 331 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,920 Because of us, a number of other species on this earth have gone extinct. 332 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,280 We've created wars, we've killed millions of our own. We're a war-like species, basically. 333 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:15,000 Conflict and civilization is what humanity has been defined by for thousands of years. 334 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,560 So if you're another species out there in the galaxy, and all of a sudden this gorilla, 335 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,160 which is humanity, finds the keys to its cage, that's, for example, say that the keys represent 336 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:33,160 nuclear technology. Imagine if that happened, and maybe it's in the interest of some of these 337 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,760 non-human intelligences that we're put back in our cage. 338 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,680 I've been pretty far up the food chain in terms of people in the government who've studied this 339 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,960 stuff, who've worked in classified programs. Some of them have gone to some pretty dark places 340 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,880 as a possible motive for what this non-human intelligence might be up to. 341 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Think of it from their perspective. They might be looking at a sinking. 342 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640 Yeah, there's a lot of life out here, but actually, earth is really a cool place. 343 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:06,200 I mean, there's planets with life, but you look at earth. Earth is a beautiful gem. 344 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:13,720 You think about all the life we have. We are bursting with life. We've got all kinds of genetic 345 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:19,080 diversity everywhere on this planet, in the oceans, in lands, in the mountains, in the deserts. 346 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:26,840 It's incredible explosion of life. I've got to think planets like earth are not just a dime a 347 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:33,800 dozen. I think we have a special place that's worth observation and maybe worth, shall I say, worth coveting. 348 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,360 One of the theories that gets bounced around is this galactic zoo idea. They may just be 349 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,320 monitoring us, watching us, studying us, but there's still a hands-off approach that clearly 350 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:05,240 dominates most of their activities. Imagine it like a fishbowl that we are kind of captive on this earth, 351 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:11,240 and there's others that just enjoy watching us. Why wouldn't they? Human beings are 352 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:18,280 fucking fascinating. So why wouldn't we be a reality show for the entertainment of some 353 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:24,840 non-human entities? What we do to each other and in this world and what we build, it's remarkable. 354 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:31,960 When I look at ancient UFO reports or other types of things that might be considered evidence for 355 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,920 long-standing visitation, I will agree that there are certain things that make me think, 356 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,280 yeah, hmm, we might be under observation. We might have been under observation for quite some time. 357 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:49,400 What happens before the United States and Great Britain invades Iraq? 358 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,440 We send scouting missions to see what the defenses are and to get intelligence on them 359 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,560 before the main invasion is launched. I don't want to scare people, but look, I'll tell you that a 360 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:08,360 lot of the military people have been investigating UAP. Some of them think this is a possible scenario. 361 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,760 When I look at the long history of UFO data, I firmly believe what we are seeing today 362 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,560 is qualitatively different than anything that's existed in the past. Why? Because we discovered 363 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:31,640 science. So today we tell the world that America has achieved a tremendous scientific breakthrough. 364 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,960 Scientists have made a major breakthrough using nuclear fusion. Everything is changing 365 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,400 in the most dramatic ways coming forward. This could be major. In the snap of a cosmic finger, 366 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:50,200 we've gone from a society of horses pulling wooden carts to where we are today on the verge of an AI 367 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:56,520 revolution, nanotech, quantum computing, genetic modification, transhumanism, good grief. Where 368 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:03,080 does it stop? Nuclear weapons and whatever kinds of crazy weapons we're developing. A fundamental 369 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,200 threat to the security of all peoples and all nations. The spread and use of nuclear weapons. 370 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,680 Kim Jong-un calls for a mass production of tactical nuclear weapons. 371 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,760 Trump discussed the idea of using a nuclear weapon against North Korea. 372 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Just one nuclear weapon exploded in a city could kill hundreds of thousands of people 373 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,800 and it would badly destabilize our very way of life. 374 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,000 If there is another world war, this civilization may go under. 375 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:46,520 Do you think for an instant, if any intelligence is able to monitor us, that they're not aware 376 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,760 that we've just flipped the switch? Yeah, because that's what we've just done. 377 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:56,600 Since the dawn of the nuclear age, UFOs have appeared over nuclear weapons places, 378 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,880 nuclear power plants, anything nuclear, they're there. I went to Russia in the 90s and brought 379 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,920 back these documents from their Ministry of Defense. They had an incident in the early 1980s, 380 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:14,360 an ICBM base in Ukraine. These missiles are aimed at the United States. For a four-hour period, 381 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:20,200 UFOs appear over this base and after a couple of hours, suddenly the launch control codes 382 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,800 light up. Somebody entered the launch control codes, the missiles start firing up, they are 383 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:32,200 ready to go. World War III is about to break out. The Russians cannot stop it. Suddenly the UFO 384 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:38,440 goes away, poof, it's gone. The system goes back to normal and the Russians send in a team, 385 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,000 they take all this stuff apart, they can't figure out what caused it, eventually they concluded 386 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,800 the UFOs did it. To me, these are displays of power. This is to show us that they are in control, not us. 387 00:41:49,880 --> 00:42:00,280 If I were a non-human intelligence, extraterrestrial or whatever, and I was witnessing what humans 388 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:07,640 have done to each other over the centuries, I'd be worried. We're developing space faring 389 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:14,040 systems where we can go and extend our inhumanity to other planets. I'd keep an eye on us. 390 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:22,680 We are not alone. All possibilities are on the table until we can rationally exclude them. 391 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:34,040 Why is this happening now? There could be something looming. It may be that they just can't keep this 392 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:40,040 secret any longer. It may be that whistleblowers are coming out. It may be that the visitors themselves 393 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,680 have decided that it's time for everyone to know what's going on. So why now? 394 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,840 I do find it interesting that all of this legislation coming out, the congressional hearings, 395 00:42:52,840 --> 00:43:00,280 all of this almost seems to be carrying them along, almost as if there's some greater intelligence 396 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,440 leading this push toward disclosure and that the members of the United States Congress, the Senate, 397 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,880 and the House are trying to get out ahead of something that they know is coming. 398 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:21,080 The United States government has always sought to kneecap to disable the UFO subject in the public 399 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:27,160 mind. And there's a reason because this subject is a problem for the national security state. 400 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:36,280 It's a problem they can't control. So the implications of this hinge on what is actually 401 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:45,720 true and our mission as a society, as a civilization, and as a species is to find out what is true. 402 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,400 It is the central question of human existence. Are we alone? 403 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,880 Where are we on the pecking order on the cosmic food chain? 404 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,600 How could you not be interested in that just for just curiosity's sake? 405 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:10,680 I think the future is bright. There's no putting this back in the bag. The thing that's unifying to us 406 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:17,400 is transparency that we've been lied to. Nobody likes being lied to, but we have to protect 407 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,240 and treat true whistleblowers. We need to protect them. 408 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:29,080 To me, this is where the rubber meets the road. We're seeing a battle being played out with a 409 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,720 kind of insurgency, you can say, that is trying to get some of this information out. 410 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:39,800 And it is up to those people who care about the truth to push that truth as hard as they can. 411 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,720 Government scientists has alleged that the U.S. military is flying recovered UFOs at a secret 412 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:55,080 base in the Nevada desert. 413 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,240 Bob Lazar says there are at least nine of the flying saucers being tested and that they were not built on earth. 414 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,800 Bob Lazar isn't the only person to claim inside knowledge of the flying discs at the test site. 415 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960 He's just the only person to say so publicly. 416 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,480 Hey Bob, what's up man? Good to see you. 417 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,120 Good to see you Jeremy. 418 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,480 Bob Lazar is a renegade. He just threw a UFO grenade into public consciousness. 419 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,360 Boom, Area 51 flying saucers. 420 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:39,560 There's definite proof and we even have articles from another world, another system. 421 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,200 You just can't not tell everyone. 422 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,920 Reverse engineering, the sports model craft. 423 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,680 It's obvious it came from somewhere else, other than earth. 424 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,640 I mean, Bob Lazar was the original whistleblower. 425 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:59,400 Talking about contact, physical contact and proof from another system, another planet, 426 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,360 another intelligence. That's got to be the biggest event in history, period. 427 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:04,920 And it's real. 428 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,840 And it's real and it's there. 429 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:11,160 Can you fucking believe kind of where we've gone? 430 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,640 It's like everybody says, I never thought we'd be here, but here we are. 431 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,800 Yeah, and you're always kind of like warning me. 432 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,600 I mean, I think it's just because of your experience, you know what I mean, of what happened to you. 433 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,800 But when George and I push these issues forward, why is it you're always kind of concerned for us? 434 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,840 Well, the concern is warranted. Look what's happened in the past. 435 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:41,320 So, I mean, really, who knows? Who knows how badly they really want to keep this secret? 436 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,960 Who knows who's in charge of keeping it secret? 437 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Well, the government hasn't voluntarily come up with this information. 438 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,720 It's only because they've had their arms twisted. 439 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,520 It's never a safe thing to play around with information like that. 440 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880 I mean, with George and me, I mean, you know, look, first of all, it's your fault. 441 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,640 I'm going to blame it. 442 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,120 It's not my fault. 443 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,440 George Knapp would never have been into the UFO thing. 444 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:13,960 And also me, if you had not come forward, we wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for what you did. 445 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,840 That's just a fact. 446 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,840 Well, maybe. I mean, it might have come out in other ways. 447 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,560 It might have just come out over time. Other people may have leaked it. 448 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,120 So whenever you warn me about you, Jeremy, I don't know if you should put that out. 449 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,360 I don't know if you and George should report on that. 450 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,720 It's like the kettle calling the pot black man, because you're the one that originally threw the UFO grenade. 451 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:42,040 Yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. But I don't want you guys to go through that stuff. 452 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,520 Just be careful. Don't step on the wrong toes. 453 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320 You see what's happened in the world. 454 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,920 You see, I mean, what do you think of like David Grash coming forward? 455 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:58,040 That's dynamite. I mean, it really is. I can only hope that some more people come out. 456 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,080 Would you talk in front of Congress if I set that up? 457 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,080 Would you give your testimony under those same circumstances under oath? 458 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,920 Would you throw down one last time? 459 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,760 I fought the fight for 30 years and I'm kind of happy the way it is now. 460 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,240 The last thing I want to do is stir the pot again. 461 00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:21,000 So I can say under oath everything I said before is true and that's all there is to it. 462 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,360 You've said before it's a crime against the scientific community, a crime against human beings, 463 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,600 to not have the basics out about this. What would you like to see happen? 464 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,400 Or what's the best case scenario? Like could this secret be told openly? 465 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,440 It's a difficult question because I understand the national security implications of it. 466 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:49,080 There's valuable information potentially to be gained that really could change the direction of a country. 467 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:58,360 And so how do you get that out into free discussion between scientists and yet keep it under cover? 468 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,440 So the valuable information doesn't get to other countries. 469 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:08,680 It's very difficult. Every other project it seems that the government has worked on has leaked. 470 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:17,560 And this is potentially world conquering information, technology that can change the course of man time. 471 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,760 But you could at least admit the one thing that we kind of agree on at this point, 472 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,960 that there is another civilization visiting us. At least come to grips with that. 473 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,640 It's like there's a lot of theories of like where these people are from or where this technology is from. 474 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:39,080 But it sounds like from your experience, it is clear that whoever's operating these craft 475 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:45,000 are the one that you got to see that they were from another or at least the craft was able to travel 476 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,200 amongst solar systems. Well, more than that, it, I mean, because it utilize gravity, it actually 477 00:49:52,200 --> 00:50:00,760 distorts time. So it can travel more than just out of the solar system. And, you know, there's no 478 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,160 guarantee that these were aliens from another planet. I've heard people throw out theories that 479 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:12,280 it's just us from the future coming back to visit. I can't discount anything like that. That could 480 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:18,520 easily be true. So whether this is from people from another dimension, us from the future, 481 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,520 or creatures from a distant star system, that all remains to be seen. 482 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,680 Yeah. Is there anything you're not telling me, Bob? 483 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600 Of course. 484 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,560 On a personal note, I appreciate it, man. And I just got to say, man, you've really endured a lot. 485 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,320 Again, whether people believe you or not, we've become friends. And as a friend, 486 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,960 just thank you for encouraging me along the way because, you know, I am fascinated with this, 487 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:55,080 man. I don't know if we'll ever get to ground truth on this stuff. But I do know that people are 488 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,200 coming forward who have direct first-hand knowledge of working on these. What else could we ask for, 489 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,560 man? I mean, you would be completely validated. I think it's coming. I mean, it just seems to be 490 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,200 going in that direction. And as far as you and George just doing your job, there's plenty of 491 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:24,840 people in prison that are just doing their jobs. This story is never going away, Bob. 492 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,240 You're always going to be the touchstone for people as you were one of the first people to 493 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:33,960 come forward and just put it all on the line. Unwillingly, I understand. But you did that. 494 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,160 So it's never going away. So even though it's small to you, it's big to other people when you 495 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,080 just take a moment and talk to us about it like this. So thanks again, man. I appreciate it. 496 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:49,720 Well, no problem. I mean, I do want this stuff to come out. But I don't know if the mood takes me, 497 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,080 I may come out fighting again. 498 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:11,960 I'm going to keep doing what I have been doing. I'm going to investigate. 499 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:21,560 I'm going to record. I'm going to document. I get to provide the public with new videos, new photos. 500 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,640 And I'm going to keep doing it, man. There's nothing that can stop me from continuing on this path 501 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:36,760 unless I cease to exist. I'm fighting for what is just and right and true. Now we have pit bulls 502 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,720 within DC that are going after this, that are going after the truth. Senate Majority Leader 503 00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:48,120 Chuck Schumer is working to introduce a bill that could let Americans finally see hard evidence of 504 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:54,680 real UFOs. I'm pleased the NDA will include my amendment on increasing transparency on UAPs. 505 00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:00,680 Do you think Chuck Schumer would put forward an amendment about UAPs and disclosure 506 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,120 if he didn't think that there was something behind it? I mean, how much more proof does anybody need 507 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,720 than the fact that you've got senators, the head of the Senate, where you've got their 508 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:18,600 presidential candidate, Biden, running for president, putting the reputation of the entire Senate at risk 509 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,160 with the upcoming election? Do you think that they would do that if they didn't know that there was 510 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:28,520 something behind it? I mean, just, I just read the tea leaves. I mean, I don't know how much more one needs. 511 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,360 We just heard that two key provisions were killed from this defense bill that basically 512 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,000 water down the requirement to make public any information about spacecraft, about alien remains. 513 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,000 I take it you're disappointed. What we're witnessing right now is quite frankly, 514 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,600 the greatest legislative failure in American history. You know, you had a very strong amendment 515 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:03,880 for government transparency on this issue. I wish that this process was simple. There's a lot of 516 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,480 pressure being put on the Schumer Rounds amendment. The thing is, is that it just doesn't happen. 517 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:17,640 Like that in my world, it's inch by inch. Congress has failed to legislate appropriately. I mean, 518 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,880 total failure. I know it can be frustrating to people, but from the public perspective, 519 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:31,800 people think all now, all at once, this disclosure process, whatever, if you want to call it that, 520 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,880 it's more of a confirmation process. It's step by step. So you see things like 521 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:43,320 David Grashen and Joe Rogan, that was huge. Are we alone? Well, the answer is we're not alone. And I 522 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:49,880 know that with 100% certainty, which has an Intel officer, you never say 100%. But I talked to the 523 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:55,400 highest of the high people you've possibly talked to to catch my drift. Just that that 524 00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:02,280 conversation is being had on a mass and global scale, he has expanded the conversation. As long 525 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:10,440 as we keep having this discussion, and people do keep coming forward, which I am more than certain, 526 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,720 will continue happening. I mean, I have recorded sessions with people who are not known to the 527 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:21,880 public. So I can be the Akashic record of their entire experiences in working in these agencies, 528 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:28,040 because I'm the key person that they'll go to first and get advice of how they can safely 529 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,920 convey information. All right, let's do this. Jeremy was a pain in the ass is what Jeremy was. 530 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,080 He called me for, I guess, something like two years trying to get through to me. He's full of 531 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,440 energy and enthusiasm. I suspect that if Jeremy hadn't come along, I might have been retired from 532 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,800 this already. We are trying to push as far as we can legally right now. Without going to jail. 533 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,240 He's made a lot of fun. We've had a lot of fun with weaponized. We've broken some pretty good 534 00:55:55,240 --> 00:56:00,840 stories. We've got to meet a whole bunch of people. The strength of him is that I don't think people 535 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:07,400 realize how hard he works hours and hours every day on the phone and doing emails and encrypted 536 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:13,160 messages, taking in information, trying to protect sources, making contacts with people. 537 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:19,880 What a guy, right? Cheers. Talk to him almost every day. We email all the time. We've got to 538 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:26,600 know each other's families. We're friends for real. It's not an act. And I trust him. And he 539 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:33,400 trusts me. It's been a very productive friendship so far. And we've got our ways to go. Being able 540 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,360 to do this kind of work with George, to have so much fun and do this like, man, let's ride this 541 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,800 shit to the wheels fall off. Like, what a blast, man. There's a lot of work still to be done on 542 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,040 this topic. I'm not going to do it forever, but I feel like it's in good hands with Jeremy to 543 00:56:48,040 --> 00:57:00,040 carry on the work that I started a long time ago. We're living in a time of revolution. You can't 544 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,320 just passively sit there in life like you deserve everything to be handed to you. The person that 545 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:11,160 deserves something is the person that fights for something, the person that is tenacious, the person 546 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:17,400 that is curious. We are on the cusp of a question that has kind of burdened human consciousness 547 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,920 since the beginning. Are we alone? 548 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,720 Just in general, are we alone? 549 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,320 We are now on the cusp of answering that question. This cover-up, and it is a cover-up, 550 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:43,480 it has harmed people, having to keep this secret. You have been lied to. The only way that we're 551 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,600 going to be able to break through this is to protect those that are coming forward. People have 552 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,360 gone and fought to get this information out, and I don't know where we're going to land. 553 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,400 It's going to be a fight. There's no stopping now.